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i pursued dianne feinstein's point about staff. when you go and you have under the previous administration a briefing with the president, the vice president, under the head of the cia, others, you're not allowed to -- i can remember driving with pat roberts when he was chairman and i was vice chairman. we weren't allowed to talk to each other. driving up or driving back. weren't allowed to do that. staff were a part of nothing. you have to understand that you're surrounded by people who work with you and fill you in. people who are experts. we are, too. but they got to be part of this. they got to be part of when the olc is -- it should come to them, also. i strongly support the chairwoman's view on that. now, in the enhanced interrogation techniques matter, a handful of former senior cia officials who were personally invested and are personally invested in defending the cia's detention and interrogation program, largely because their professional reputations depend on it, depend on it, purport to speak for the cia and its workforc
i pursued dianne feinstein's point about staff. when you go and you have under the previous administration a briefing with the president, the vice president, under the head of the cia, others, you're not allowed to -- i can remember driving with pat roberts when he was chairman and i was vice chairman. we weren't allowed to talk to each other. driving up or driving back. weren't allowed to do that. staff were a part of nothing. you have to understand that you're surrounded by people who work...
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senator feinstein today clearly wanted to get on with it, right? regardless of how you feel about the cia or killing people outside war zones or john brennan or the senate or for that matter dianne feinstein you kind of have to tip your hat to the code pink folks just on operational grounds, right? i mean, they can get it done. since they started showing up in washington almost a decade ago, even though everybody knows they're coming now, code pink still gets in everywhere. >> fire rumsfeld! >> this hearing is adjourned. >> thou shall not kill. thou shall not kill. >> clear the room. >> we can't afford this war. the american people don't want it. i don't know when we get a chance to speak. >> reckless behavior. the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra. >> i'm going to ask that the room be cleared and that the code pink associates not be permitted to come back in. we've done this five times now and five times are enough. >> somebody today christened this the code pink filibuster. and you know, i know, what cod
senator feinstein today clearly wanted to get on with it, right? regardless of how you feel about the cia or killing people outside war zones or john brennan or the senate or for that matter dianne feinstein you kind of have to tip your hat to the code pink folks just on operational grounds, right? i mean, they can get it done. since they started showing up in washington almost a decade ago, even though everybody knows they're coming now, code pink still gets in everywhere. >> fire...
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when you hear dianne feinstein say why can't staff be involved? they have experts who work on their staff and, you know, if you were handed or i was handed a memo that was complex and we got a chance to read it but then they took it away and no one else could see it, yes, you had some oversight but you really didn't get a chance to study it to make lots of informed questions about it, that sort of thing. so that's part of that appeal. barbara mikulski said she's been jerked around time and time again. that gives you a window into a frustration where highly trusted members of congress are not getting answers and they let it be known. >> now, kelly, the brennan hearings sort of took up all the oxygen in political washington yesterday, but there was a hearing earlier in the day, senate armed services committee, leon panetta, the outgoing defense secretary, talked about many things but i want to play something about the attack in benghazi and the exchange between he and lindsey graham. >> it lasted almost eight hours. and my question to you is during
when you hear dianne feinstein say why can't staff be involved? they have experts who work on their staff and, you know, if you were handed or i was handed a memo that was complex and we got a chance to read it but then they took it away and no one else could see it, yes, you had some oversight but you really didn't get a chance to study it to make lots of informed questions about it, that sort of thing. so that's part of that appeal. barbara mikulski said she's been jerked around time and time...
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senator feinstein asked for protesters to be removed from the room. i was not able to catch a glimpse of the banner they were holding. it's not unusual to see these disruptions. but we'll get more on exactly what was going on there but these are live pictures right now. you hear the gavel but just quickly -- let's just -- we were going to talk about hagel but i want to talk about brennan. you are expecting fireworks, right? that's what we've been talking about. >> i think we expect brennan to be confirmed, especially considering polls on drones, for example, show 83% of americans a year ago support the president's use of drones overseas. that doesn't mean that there isn't a significant and deep disaffection for the use of them or, for example, we talked about it yesterday, or the which are or enhanced interrogation techniques as the bush administration called it. all of that is stuff john brennan knows a heck of a lot about and people will be outraged he is president obama's nominee. >> we discussed this prior but originally we thought, you know, the
senator feinstein asked for protesters to be removed from the room. i was not able to catch a glimpse of the banner they were holding. it's not unusual to see these disruptions. but we'll get more on exactly what was going on there but these are live pictures right now. you hear the gavel but just quickly -- let's just -- we were going to talk about hagel but i want to talk about brennan. you are expecting fireworks, right? that's what we've been talking about. >> i think we expect...
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dianne feinstein had a little different take in terms of the high-value targets. this is what she said. >> having the executive being the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, and executioner all in one is very contrary to traditions in the laws of this country. particularly in this ditch away to where there is time. if a soldier on the battlefield does not have time to go to court, if you're planning a strike over a matter of days, weeks, or months, there is an opportunity to least go to some outside of the executive branch body like the fisa court in a top-secret way, make the case that this american citizen is an enemy combatant. >> i think is worthy of discussion. our tradition, judicially, is a court of law is used to determine one's guilt or innocence for past actions for it which is very different from the decisions made on the battlefield as well as actions taken against terrorists. because none of those actions are to determine past built for those actions they took. the decisions made are to take action so we prevent a future action to protect american lives.
dianne feinstein had a little different take in terms of the high-value targets. this is what she said. >> having the executive being the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, and executioner all in one is very contrary to traditions in the laws of this country. particularly in this ditch away to where there is time. if a soldier on the battlefield does not have time to go to court, if you're planning a strike over a matter of days, weeks, or months, there is an opportunity to least go to some...
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intelligence committee chairwoman dianne feinstein said despite reports drones have killed hundreds of civilians -- >> the figures we've obtained from the executive branch which we have done our utmost to verify confirm that the number of civilian casualties that have resulted from such strikes each year has typically been in the single digits. >> john: which would make anyone opposed to the drone war killing civilians feel so much better. on the plus side, senator feinstein provided plans to provide oversight of the drone war. >> i also intend to review proposals for regulation -- excuse me, for legislation to ensure that drone strikes are carried out in a manner consistent with our values. and that the proposal to create and an na log of the foreign intelligence surveillance court to review the conduct of such strikes. >> john: it is worth noting a 2012 poll shows americans already think drone strikes are consistent with our values. nearly four out of five adults approve the use of drone strikes against terrorist suspects overseas. 2/3 suspected using drones to kill american terroris
intelligence committee chairwoman dianne feinstein said despite reports drones have killed hundreds of civilians -- >> the figures we've obtained from the executive branch which we have done our utmost to verify confirm that the number of civilian casualties that have resulted from such strikes each year has typically been in the single digits. >> john: which would make anyone opposed to the drone war killing civilians feel so much better. on the plus side, senator feinstein...
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the senators from san francisco and california, the 49ers, senators feinstein and boxer. speaker pelosi was with us yesterday in new orleans. and thousands of fans from all over the world and, of course, watching on television. and i think -- i wanted to make a note on this floor, not because it was just a sporting event -- although it's one of i think the highest watched super bowls ever in the history of the game, but, mr. president, because of the role that this congress played and the administration in helping this great city and region and state rebound from what was a devastating body blow 7 1/2 years ago when hurricane katrina and then rita hit three weeks later and then the levees broke anin over 52 places, the city wt virtually underwater, at least two-thirds of the city. and to see 7 1/2 years later the city rebound, the people of new orleans and louisiana are just foremost in my thoughts right now for their fighting spirit, theirry sell yancy, their unwilling -- their resiliency, their unwillingness to give occupy this special place in will celebrate its 300th
the senators from san francisco and california, the 49ers, senators feinstein and boxer. speaker pelosi was with us yesterday in new orleans. and thousands of fans from all over the world and, of course, watching on television. and i think -- i wanted to make a note on this floor, not because it was just a sporting event -- although it's one of i think the highest watched super bowls ever in the history of the game, but, mr. president, because of the role that this congress played and the...
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senator feinstein did say it's time for full disclosure. >> when i asked to give out the actual numbers, i'm told you can't. i say why not? because it's classified. it's a covert program. for the public it doesn't exist. well, i think that rationale, mr. brennan, is long gone. >> john brennan would not commit to additional disclosures, but he defended the legality of the program. >> the president has insisted that any actions we take will be legally grounded, will be thoroughly anchored in intelligence, will have the appropriate review process, approval process before any action is contemplated, including those actions that might involve the use of lethal force. >> to be fair, it sounds like the bush administration all over. democrats and republicans voiced their concerns, but it was independent senator from maine angus king who questioned the executive power of the president. >> having the executive being the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, and the executioner all in one is very contrary to the traditions and the laws of this country. >> unilateral execution power of the president is
senator feinstein did say it's time for full disclosure. >> when i asked to give out the actual numbers, i'm told you can't. i say why not? because it's classified. it's a covert program. for the public it doesn't exist. well, i think that rationale, mr. brennan, is long gone. >> john brennan would not commit to additional disclosures, but he defended the legality of the program. >> the president has insisted that any actions we take will be legally grounded, will be...
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. >> please -- >> senator feinstein zsh if you could please expedite the removal. >>> we have michael isakoff, and the correspondent who obtained the white page memo, jim warren, chicago editor of the daily beast and newsweek and karen finney and john braybender. michael, i want to start with you because it was your reporting that started all of this for the american people to get to learn more about how the administration feels it is legal in the choices made for drone strikes. one thing politico is reporting in the article that they have on this and, of course, the two hearings we were watching yesterday, one being leon panetta on benghazi and the other one with john brennan in the afternoon, it says, senators were looking for a pinata, for hours, brennan was battered by senators even though many of the complaints had little or nothing to do with him. what did we learn? what did we walk away with? >> actually, very little. although i think there was a lot of expectations that we were going to get more transparency, particularly because president obama had just the night before said
. >> please -- >> senator feinstein zsh if you could please expedite the removal. >>> we have michael isakoff, and the correspondent who obtained the white page memo, jim warren, chicago editor of the daily beast and newsweek and karen finney and john braybender. michael, i want to start with you because it was your reporting that started all of this for the american people to get to learn more about how the administration feels it is legal in the choices made for drone...
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senator feinstein was obviously working behind the scenes. and so finally last night around 6:30, 7:00 last night, the white house relented and the president called wyden. i know you guys are going to talk to wyden later. but this is a very big deal because now the drone policy is going to be central to this confirmation hearing today. >> you know, yesterday pete wehner wrote this. and he's quoting barack obama from may 29th, 2009, the famous speech at the national archives. where he says, let me be clear. we are at war with al qaeda, but we need to update our institutions and do so with an abiding confidence in the rule of law and due process. in checks and balances and accountability for reasons i will explain, the decisions were made over the last eight years during the bush years established an ad hoc legal approach for fighting terrorism that was neither effective nor sustainable. a framework that failed to rely on our legal traditions and time-tested institutions and that failed to use our values as a compass. those words, steve, whethe
senator feinstein was obviously working behind the scenes. and so finally last night around 6:30, 7:00 last night, the white house relented and the president called wyden. i know you guys are going to talk to wyden later. but this is a very big deal because now the drone policy is going to be central to this confirmation hearing today. >> you know, yesterday pete wehner wrote this. and he's quoting barack obama from may 29th, 2009, the famous speech at the national archives. where he...
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>> dianne feinstein, the chair of the committee yesterday still saying yesterday they wanted the original documents. then today on our program at 1:00, the house chairman, who carries a lot of weight about and has is very supportive, a former fbi guy, a republican, though, said he also thought the original memos should be turned over, that the white paper that had been turned over to them last summer that michael isikoff uncovered and reported first on your show was not good enough. that it needed to finally be the actual legal guidance that was turned over to the oversight committees. and we're talking about the two intelligence committees, rachel, who handle classified information all the time. and there haven't been any leaks out of those committees. so they were facing a confirmation hearing that was potentially contentious. and also, other answers were given to the committee that were revealed today from john brennan. we can talk about that after a moment. they knew that there were other issues they were going to have to deal with. they needed to get this off the table. >> well, in t
>> dianne feinstein, the chair of the committee yesterday still saying yesterday they wanted the original documents. then today on our program at 1:00, the house chairman, who carries a lot of weight about and has is very supportive, a former fbi guy, a republican, though, said he also thought the original memos should be turned over, that the white paper that had been turned over to them last summer that michael isikoff uncovered and reported first on your show was not good enough. that...
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. >> that is senator feinstein and there is another hearing on tuesday which will be classified. we go to the republican line. caller: i'm impressed with the quality of this candidate. i'm grateful for his education and there is no comparison between the quality of this man and chuck hagel. they are in different sandboxes. i'm very grateful for people like this who we desperately need in times like this. >> we go to the independent line. this is doug, welcome to the conversation. caller: thanks for taking my call and thanks to c-span. i think the only one that had any sanity and knew the questions that were going to be asked. we did not get any answers to them. how is the decision made? what are the requirements? the independent said we should have a court that regardless who the president is they should not have a unilateral way to document nominate someone. people in this country don't know about the mddaa, the national defense thorgs act which allows the president to designate a person who he feels is a terrorist or supporting terrorist organizations to deprive him of life, li
. >> that is senator feinstein and there is another hearing on tuesday which will be classified. we go to the republican line. caller: i'm impressed with the quality of this candidate. i'm grateful for his education and there is no comparison between the quality of this man and chuck hagel. they are in different sandboxes. i'm very grateful for people like this who we desperately need in times like this. >> we go to the independent line. this is doug, welcome to the conversation....
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i pursue dianne feinstein's statement about staff. under the previous administration, when you have a briefing with the president or the vice president and the cia and others, you are not allowed to -- i can remember when pat roberts was the chairman and i was vice chairman, we were not allowed to talk to each other driving up and driving back. staff were allowed to do nothing. you are surrounded by people who work with you and fill you in. people who are experts. we are, too. they've got to be part of this. wende olc comes, it should come to them also. i strongly agree with the chairman's views on that. in the enhance interrogation techniques matter, a handful of former cia officials who were personally invested in defending the interrogation program, largely because their professional reputations depend , i think it does a great disservice to discuss this issue. you understand that this took six years to write, not just 6000 pages. perhaps longer. 30,000 footnotes. why did we do this? we did this because we have heard nothing from t
i pursue dianne feinstein's statement about staff. under the previous administration, when you have a briefing with the president or the vice president and the cia and others, you are not allowed to -- i can remember when pat roberts was the chairman and i was vice chairman, we were not allowed to talk to each other driving up and driving back. staff were allowed to do nothing. you are surrounded by people who work with you and fill you in. people who are experts. we are, too. they've got to be...
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senator feinstein -- >> senator feinstein -- [indiscernible] do your job. we are making more enemies. >> please proceed. mr. brennan, the next time we will clear the chamber and bring people back in one by one. this witness is entitled to be heard, ladies and gentlemen, so please give him that opportunity. >> thank you. i thank you on behalf of my family in new jersey, especially my mother -- [indiscernible] who emigrated from ireland 65 years ago. >> i have a list with all of the names -- >> all right, which are run to halt the hearing. i am going to ask that the room be cleared and that the code pink associates not be permitted to come back in. it has been done five times now, and five times is enough. so we will recess for a few minutes. [applause] [indiscernible] all right. ladies and gentlemen, if you would mind leaving, we will then have you come back in, but it is the only way i think we are going to stop this. we will recess for a few minutes. [indiscernible] john? john? john? [indiscernible] >> stop the killing of pakistani children. >> clear the a
senator feinstein -- >> senator feinstein -- [indiscernible] do your job. we are making more enemies. >> please proceed. mr. brennan, the next time we will clear the chamber and bring people back in one by one. this witness is entitled to be heard, ladies and gentlemen, so please give him that opportunity. >> thank you. i thank you on behalf of my family in new jersey, especially my mother -- [indiscernible] who emigrated from ireland 65 years ago. >> i have a list with...
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dianne feinstein is talking to brennan about actions that the u.s. may take and their legality on the grounds and if there is proper review for the use of these legal strikes. this is the exchange. [video clip] >> i would like to ask you about the status of the demonstration's efforts to institutionalize rules and procedures for the -- the toinistration's efforts institutionalize rules and procedures for drone strikes. how do you see your role in that approval process? >> as this committee nose and was to continue to protect certain covert certaininow -- committee knows and was to protect certain covert operations. we feel we are taking the appropriate action at the appropriate time. the president has insisted any actions we take will be legally grounded, will be thoroughly anchored in intelligence, will have the appropriate approval process before any action is contemplated, including those actions that might involve the use of lethal force. different parts of the government are involved in this process. my role as the president's counterterrorism a
dianne feinstein is talking to brennan about actions that the u.s. may take and their legality on the grounds and if there is proper review for the use of these legal strikes. this is the exchange. [video clip] >> i would like to ask you about the status of the demonstration's efforts to institutionalize rules and procedures for the -- the toinistration's efforts institutionalize rules and procedures for drone strikes. how do you see your role in that approval process? >> as this...
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one scene i thought was memorable, when dianne feinstein took after him for not allowing senate staff access to a lot of this information really was a window on how washington works that, you know, people think that senators sort of pore over a lot of these and study them. their staffs brief them and tell them what's going on. the suggestion staff can't have access is debilitating as we saw yesterday. >> it was interesting that brennan said that he, when waterboarding came on, when he was at the cia that he was not in a position to try to stop it, but that he had expressed his reservations about it, his opposition to it and that he would never happen under his watch under director of cia. did that come across as auth authentic? a little bit different from waterboarding. something president obama ostensibly put a stop to said we don't water board. we don't torture. so the belief is i guess, it goes on some of these cia black sites that may or may not exist officially. >> so on the drones, i mean when the flap started at the beginning of the week with the new york time story about this.
one scene i thought was memorable, when dianne feinstein took after him for not allowing senate staff access to a lot of this information really was a window on how washington works that, you know, people think that senators sort of pore over a lot of these and study them. their staffs brief them and tell them what's going on. the suggestion staff can't have access is debilitating as we saw yesterday. >> it was interesting that brennan said that he, when waterboarding came on, when he was...